Le 26-juil.-05, à 02:17, Lee Corbin a écrit :

Look, it's VERY simple:  take as a first baby-step the notion
that the 19th century idea of a cosmos is basically true, and
then add just the Big Bang.  What we then have is a universe
that operates under physical laws.  So far---you'll readily
agree---this is *very* simple conceptually.

Next, look at this picture after 14.7 billion years.  Guess
what has evolved?  Finally, there is intelligence and there
are entities who can *perceive* all this grandeur.

So, don't forget which came first.  Not people.  Not perceptions.
Not ideas.  Not dich an sich.  Not 1st person.  Not 3rd person.
NOT ANY OF THIS NONSENSE.  Keep to the basics and we *perhaps*
will have a chance to understand what is going on.


But both the quantum facts, and then just the comp hyp are incompatible with that type of naive realism.

You are reifying Nature, like those who confuses Aristotle's methodology and its metaphysical questions.

It seems to me you are confusing the map and the territory, like you ask us not to do in your other recent posts. I'm confuse about what you really think (about fundamental matters).

Bruno

http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/


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