Its a different mode of description. Physics does not describe the subjective state. Also, causation no. 2 appears to work in the opposite direction to causation no. 1.
Cheers
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 06:01:45PM -0700, Pete Carlton wrote:
>
> On Sep 19, 2005, at 1:00 AM, Marc Geddes wrote:
>
> >Here's a speculation:
> >
> >The model I'm working with for my theory seems to suggest 3
> >different fundamental kinds of 'cause and effect'.
> >
> >The first is physical causality - motion of physical objects
> >through space.
> >The second is mental causality - agents making choices which
> >effect agents
> >The third is what I call 'Multiverse causality', a sort of highly
> >abtsract 'causality' close to the notion of logical consistency/
> >consilience - that which ensures that knowledge has a certain
> >ordered 'structure' to it .
> >
> >Anyone have any thoughts on this?
> >
>
> Here's my thought -- isn't it the case that we know enough about how
> brains work today that, at the very least, it is a huge overstatement
> to refer to the first two types as "different fundamental kinds"? In
> other words, I will claim that type 2 is actually nothing more than a
> subset of type 1, occurring in particular circumstances. What
> evidence goes against this view?
>
> -Pete
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