And what about the socks that simply vanish? Ten pairs go in, maybe only nine 
and a half come out. There's a lot of quantum weirdness around some of those 
washers & driers. And never any _extra_ socks.

Ben Udell

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kim Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Russell Standish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Bruno Marchal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Everything-List List" 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: Artificial Philosophizing

Best of all - try a washing machine. Get all your wife's stockings  
and throw them loosely into the washing machine and switch it on for  
one cycle. When you see the state of entanglement of everything at  
the end you will understand genuine randomness.

Kim Jones

On 10/02/2006, at 10:18 AM, Russell Standish wrote:

>> Only if your computer is interfaced with a quantum generator  
>> (assuming
>> the quantum theory).
> But it is. Its called a keyboard. (The faster you type, the more
> genuine randomness is generated). Do a Google search on /dev/random,
> or on "Havege"*. There is also a fantastically complicated quantum
> random generator that consists of an arrangement of spinning disks
> interacting with a volume of air@ (OK perhaps not proven quantum, but
> our best theories that describe the operation of the device, ie Chaos
> theory, indicates quantum influence).

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