Bruno wrote: > So the divine intellect of the Vimalakirti Machine will contains all proposition of the form: > ~B<whatever>: > more example: > ~B(an asteroid will not hurt earth in 2102) > ~B(an asteroid will hurt earth in 2102) > ~B(1+1 = 4) > ~B(1+1 ? 4) > ~B(PI is rational) > ~B(PI is not rational) > etc. > This gives an infinite set of true propositions *about* the machine, > all beginning by "~B". The modalist will recall that "~B" is equivalent > with "D~", and <whatever> is of course the same as <~whatever>, > so the divine intellect can be characterized by saying it contains > all "possibilities" (the alethic reading of the diamond "D"). > > This was simple enough, no?
So when you say that the divine is the set of propositions that are true about the entity, what you are really saying is that the divine knows about all of the elements in the Universal Set (your <whatever>) and so can take the complement of the terrestrial intellect to get all of the things that the terrestrial intellect cannot know. Right? For the Vimalakirti Machine (and also for me today, too, whether I am a machine or not) this includes both of the following. An asteroid will not hit the earth in 2102. An asteroid will hit the earth in 2102. I am uncomfortable taking the complement of something when I don?t know what the Universal Set is. This is akin to the Something vs. Nothing problem. Everything and Nothing are equally mysterious. Doesn?t taking the complement of a discourse by a machine provide no more information than the discourse itself? It seems that you would have to have access to the truth (p) for the "divine intellect" to be any smarter than the "terrestrial intellect". This is what the "divine soul" has, Bp & p. > I let you find the divine soul... For the Vimalakirti Machine, since "Bp" is empty, and thus "Bp & p" is empty, then by your "taking the complement" argument above it would seem to me that you would say that the divine soul "contains all possibilities" also. The fact that p is anded with Bp to begin with shouldn?t make a difference in this case, since the result is empty. The divine soul cannot have access to all truth p, but only the portion of truth covered by Bp, which is empty since Bp is empty. The divine soul is the propositions which are true *about the entity*, not all true propositions. > ... > I hope this helps you to distinguish a discourse made > BY a machine/entity from a discourse made ABOUT > the machine/entity. This is a key to understand the > difference between terrestrial and divine in the > mathematical interpretation of Plotinus. The difference seems to bank on taking the complement. What is your Universal Set? Is it only things that can be expressed by numbers? By the way, I saw that in the Wall Street Journal today there is an article about a man who sold his soul on eBay for $504. I guess his Universal Set is just numbers. :) Tom --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---