Bruno,

this is not the reply I am still thinking about, this
is a question. Below is a post of last week, a
suggestion whether I figure a 'mathematical object'
right or wrong? It seems to me that the whole problem
is about nomencalture, CALLED mathematical, since we
cannot 'realize' the mathematical construct of objects
in the unlimited existence. My example below refers to
a (reductionist?) model expressed as a math construct.
Is it on the roght way of thinking?

John M

--- John M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(le 13ieme mars 2006)
> 
> 
> Quentin, about those darn numbers:
> 
> Although I am not FOR their omnipotence/science and
> have some reservations - as I explained partially - 
> I have a different notion HOW "a number" can "mean"
> whatever.
> *
> Older members who still went to libraries (before
> the
> computer only generation <G>) may remember the still
> existing "decimal" system to organize library-stuff
> (and anything else). It had basic topics in a
> decimal
> form, where the fractional part identified the
> detail,
> then with additions in (-), /, :, [-], and
> +,-,_,=,etc. you name it, ALL connotations, details,
> relations and peculiarities could be specified and
> included into THAT "NUMBER" (sometimes pretty long).
> 
> This was a primitive way and I am sure the
> number-lover members of this list know better, but
> for
> starters this could be a hint how numbers can 'mean'
> something.
> 
> Sorry to support the enemy
> 
> John M
> 
> --- Quentin Anciaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Le Lundi 13 Mars 2006 14:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> a
> > �crit�:
> > > Quentin Anciaux wrote:
> > > > But whatever you do with numbers can be
> encoding
> > with numbers, as such
> > > > assuming platonic existence, numbers are the
> > only requirements, because
> > > > operation on them, discourse about them,
> > description on them are numbers
> > > > too.
> > >
> > > Hmm. You can hardly claim that the meaning is
> > intrinsic to the number.
> > > Does "2" mean "red", "mammal", "male" or what ?
> It
> > could be mean
> > > anything in a given coding scheme.
> > 
> > I agree, but the coding scheme is also a number.
> > The coding scheme is the instruction set of a
> turing
> > machine, which is also a 
> > number... I'm stuck ;)
> > 
> > Quentin
> > 
> >
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
>
> 
> 


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