[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Georges wrote:
>>> - The multiverse is isomorphic to a mathematical object,
>> This has to be saying simply that the multiverse IS a mathematical
>> object.
>> Otherwise it is nonsense.
> 
> No, because all mathematical objects, as mathematical objects
> exist (or don't exit) on an equal basis. Yet the universe is only
> isomorphic to one of them. It has real existence, as opposed
> to the other mathematical objects which are only abstract.

That is the question.

That "[The universe] has real existence, as opposed to the
other mathematical objects which are only abstract." is what
I called a dualist view. There is also a monist view in which
there is nothing special about the universe among all the
other objects it is isomorphic to (as all objects isomorphic
one to each other are the same object) and in which the
"realness" of the universe is only perceived as such from
the inside.

Both view seem to have their champions here. I guesse that
when saying "This has to be saying simply that the multiverse
IS a mathematical object." Tom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) defends
the monist view as obvious and the only one making sense while
when saying "[The universe] has real existence, as opposed
to the other mathematical objects which are only abstract."
you defend the monist view as obvious and the only one making
sense. For me, it is not obvious either way (both views make
sense to me) and I think we need to postulate something either
to include or to exclude the dualist (or the monist) view.
Common sense seems to be in favor of dualism while Okham's
razor would be against it.

Georges.

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