Georges Quenot wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> Georges wrote:
> >>> - The multiverse is isomorphic to a mathematical object,
> >> This has to be saying simply that the multiverse IS a mathematical
> >> object.
> >> Otherwise it is nonsense.
> >
> > No, because all mathematical objects, as mathematical objects
> > exist (or don't exit) on an equal basis. Yet the universe is only
> > isomorphic to one of them. It has real existence, as opposed
> > to the other mathematical objects which are only abstract.
>
> That is the question.
>
> That "[The universe] has real existence, as opposed to the
> other mathematical objects which are only abstract." is what
> I called a dualist view.

Dualism says there are two really existing realms or substances.
Saying the physical realm is concrete and real and the mathematical
realm is abstract and unreal is not dualism.

> Both view seem to have their champions here. I guesse that
> when saying "This has to be saying simply that the multiverse
> IS a mathematical object." Tom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) defends
> the monist view as obvious and the only one making sense while
> when saying "[The universe] has real existence, as opposed
> to the other mathematical objects which are only abstract."

Well, I've never seen a mathematical object. Have you
ever seen the number 3?


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