Bruno Marchal wrote: > Le 20-mars-06, à 00:04, John M a écrit : > > > > A Turing machine does nothing (by itself). Don't take > > the power for granted. Something has to OPERATE it to > > do anything. > > > Why? How could a digital machine distinguish reality, virtual reality, > arithmetical reality, etc.
The question is about what computers are , form a 3rd-person perspective, not about what a machine would see from its own 1st person perspective. We know we have a 1st person perspecitve, and we have 3rd person knowledge of computers. That is the perspective of John's question. You question is from a machine's 1st person perspective. We don't even know that digitial computers have a 1st-person perspective. Your question might not even be valid. > > Bruno: > > let me draw your attention to one little phrasing in > > Hal's (and everybody else's, I presume, as I read > > these posts)- text: > > "If we assume..." > > And if we do not? > > > You will miss the consequences of the assumption. All science is based > on implicit or explicit assumption, related to (non definable) > world-views. Almost all science is based on the implicit assumption of a "stuffy" world view. Therefore, the burden of proof is on those who seek to deny it. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---