Hi, Le Samedi 25 Mars 2006 00:27, Brent Meeker a écrit : > Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > Le Vendredi 24 Mars 2006 20:38, 1Z a écrit : > >>Quentin Anciaux wrote: > >>>A quick point still : > >>>You seem to have a problem with mathematical monism and reject it due to > >>>HP world... but HP world is not a consequence of mathematical monism, > >>> but a consequence of many world theories which can themself presuppose > >>> mathematical monism or not. Everett many world theory is not > >>> mathematical monism, still it support HP world. > >> > >>Physically MW theories are inherently more constrained than > >>mathematical > >>MW theories. You are not going to get water flowing uphill in a > >>physical MW > >>theory, because it contradicts the consevation of energy. > > > > Quantum theory predict that there is a very tiny chance that a broken cup > > of coffee restructured itself... yet in everett mw theory as all choices > > are made, there exists branches where this happen all the time. Yet as > > I'll quote you "it is not observed"... but that does not mean anything > > against everett mw. > > It doesn't mean much against Everett because Everett predicts extremely > small probabilities for such events

yes that's what I explain (I think), but even very very small probabilities lead in many worlds to the existence of a very very tiny number of branches where these weird events happen *all the time*. > and so effectively predicts they will > not be seen. Whether is counts against everything-exists theories depends > on the probability measure over such theories - a frequent topic of > discussion on this list. > > Brent Meeker I believe in relative measure and I think this is a key to resolve HP universes "problem" (I quote problem because I don't see why it is one after all). Regards, Quentin Anciaux --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---