Tom, I think you have something important to say, however I found your statement below incomprehensible. I ran it through Microsoft Word, which informed me that the "Flesch Reading Ease" score is 38, where I'm told that 60-70 is desirable for good comprehension. The Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level score is 13.5, where 7 to 8 is desirable for good comprehension. Therefore, by this criteria, your statement is not easily understood.
The Flesch Reading Ease score is defined as 206.835 – (1.015 x ASL) – (84.6 x ASW) The Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level score is defined as (0.39 x ASL) + (11.8 x ASW) – 15.59 ASL = avg. sentence length, 22.5 in your statement. ASW = avg. no. of syllables per word, 1.72 in your statement. Norman Samish ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Intensionality (was: The Riemann Zeta Pythagorean TOE) Another categorization of this dichotomy could be the Plato universals corresponding to Intensional definitions and the possible, vs. the Aristotle particulars corresponding to the Extensional definitions and the actual. The Intensional can also be associated with mathematical descriptions and algorithmic complexity, whereas Extensional is when something is defined by listing all of its components without assigning any order to it or doing any information compression. I think that it takes a person to do the Intensional, to assign order, beauty or meaning. My belief is that we as finite persons cannot reduce that to numbers, fully understanding it in a reductionist way. I think this is what Stephen was getting at with Intensionality, and perhaps what is also called simple apprehension, intuition. I guess this could be Bruno's distinction between the inside view (G) of only the world that is accessible to us through proof, versus being able to somehow comprehend truth, beauty and order directly (G*). I think there might be some confusion sometimes with what math and numbers are about. I think that math is about Intensionality, seeing truth, beauty and order. By definition, this is saying that we are leaving out a lot of the particulars, we are compressing information. Some people (particularly the reductionist view) say that math brings us closer to understanding everything about the universe. They look at numbers and say wow numbers are very precise, so this means we can do the same thing with the universe. Perhaps in a way math does bring us closer or give us a better understanding, but I think it is wrong to believe that "closer" means that we can have a goal of actually understanding everything. It is like Zeno's paradox, yes we are getting closer, but what does that mean? I think that we have to always take the humble stance that there will always be something that we don't understand. Tom --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---