Saibal, your phrase: >"...very complex ''laws of physics'' that describe the qualia we experience. .."< includes "laws": the recurring observational portions in the model observed, (if our view extends, the 'laws' may alter) and a restriction to what "we experience". Which is continually expanding as our epistemic enrichment goes on - and/or as we learn to 'think' better. I may compare your position in hard/soft ware dichotomy to my ignorance is computer science what I never learned: I "see" lights on/off and some hardware when I peek into the box and hear noises, and read what comes on the screen. As an engineer I may guess that the hardware turns and contacts lick off signs, organize them, but from software I have no idea (not compiler, not programs, not how your name comes out of 0,1, but I accept it and manipulate my computer (poor soul!) to DO what I want. This is the level I feel in your (and others) position about "our brain (even if it includes the software) "simulating us" even understand the universe. Starting with that 'nothin' we know and speculating about the rest. The ideas may be recent, but the modus operandi (mental) is ancient.
Thanks for the reply John M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Saibal Mitra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "everything" <email@example.com>; "John M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: Re: Reasons and Persons > > John, actually I don't want to do that per se. I think that ultimately we live in a > universe described by the very complex ''laws of physics'' that describe the qualia we > experience. Perhaps it is better to say that we are such complex universes. We are > simulated in a universe described by simple laws of physics. Our brains are simulating > us. We shouldn't confuse the hardware with the software.... > > > Saibal > > > Quoting "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > And why do you want to restrict a 'person' to a cut view of its neurons > > only? > > Isn't a person (as anything) part of his ambience - in a wider view: of > > the > > totality, with interction back and forth with all the changes that go on? > > Are you really interested only in the dance of those silly neurons? > > > > John M > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Saibal Mitra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <firstname.lastname@example.org> > > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 9:07 PM > > Subject: Re: Reasons and Persons > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---