Sorry, but I expected better from you. "Not denying" is
not "believing" or "entertaining"..
Besides you address an example smack from this (our)
universe even from this solar system, where we, humans,
evolved upon these given conditions, while I definitely pointed to
'possibilities under "other" circumstances/conditions.
The fact that I mentioned 'rock' comes from accepting the
argument of "something totally different" and I referred to qualia unknown/able
in our humanly shaped mindset.
The cube on Pluto is human physix and logix
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:43
Subject: RE: Re: Bruno's argument
John Mikes writes (quoting SP):
you wrote: (excerpt):
<...The simplest explanation that comes to mind is that a brain or computer
can interact with its environment, and it is only those computations which
interact with their environment of which we can be aware. A rock may be
implementing all sorts of computations, including self-aware ones, but as
far as communicating with it goes, its "mind" is effectively segregated in a
separate, solipsistic universe. ...<
My old complaint about "all possible":
the fact that WE cannot communicate with a rock and do not understand their
(rocky)mind is no proof. Why do you think at all that a rock would
'compute'? Self-awareness? all these are OUR interpretations for OUR
immaging in Our kind of mind about the world WE think about in OUR logic.
We may concentrate on our ways but that does not deny other ways outside of
the domain of our comprehension.
We don't even communicate with 'thinking' animals!
fact that we don't know about something does not mean that it isn't so, but
that isn't the same as saying that we should believe, or even seriously
entertain the possibility, that it is so. Suppose I propose that on the planet
Pluto there is a rock 10 metres in diameter, perfectly spherical to a
tolerance of 1 millimetre. Certainly, such a thing is physically possible, and
no-one can tell me that they know for sure no such rock exists, but does that
mean that my proposal should be taken seriously? We need to have some positive
reason for believing something; the mere fact that it is not impossible is not
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