Here is another way to look at the world. The popular understanding of 
evolution is that animals evolved one from another. But given that time 
itself is a quale in consciousness, such temporal evolution is meaningless. 
So here is an alternative: the animals resemble one another not because 
they evolved one from another, but because reality is a catalogue of forms, 
it displays forms that resemble one with another. As such, humans didn't 
evolve from monkeys, but monkeys have human hands and human ears, etc, 
because they are a form of reality that is in close proximity to the form 
of humans. As such, there was no Big Bang, but the form at T=0 is the 
simplest form that reality takes in the catalogue.

On Saturday, 22 March 2025 at 15:18:55 UTC+2 Alan Grayson wrote:

> On Saturday, March 22, 2025 at 3:10:18 AM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:
>
> Given Alan obsession with utility, I invite him here to explain to us 
> where does he think that science will eventually go ? More particles ? More 
> galaxies ? More AI! AI! AI! ? More what ? AVDASGBA SDGASDG BDFBGGASD ? So 
> what ? ASFASDFGA HDFHADH ASDFASFA!!!!! Isn't it clear to you that all this 
> more and more and more is all meaningless ? Isn't it clear to you that 
> whatever particles will be known in the year 3000, life will be the same, 
> and you will still be as depressed as you are today ? So what do you think 
> is the end game of science ? I will give you the answer, but I also wait 
> for your answer. The answer is God. The end point of science is to open 
> doors for consciousness to have new experiences. That's all there is to it. 
> Not more particles and more mumbo-jumbos. The very purpose of existence is 
> for God to know all that he can be, to have all the possible experiences.
>
>
> What I'd like to know, and what physics might eventually provide, is a 
> resolution of the apparent singularity at T=0. The insufficiency with 
> theories about consciousness and God, is not that they're inherently wrong 
> -- I don't subscribe to that pov -- but that they generally don't lead us 
> to something new, as yet undiscovered. AG 
>

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