Well... given that family was destroyed by feminism with 50% of marriages 
ending in divorce and with the rise of hookup culture created by women, is 
pretty clear that indeed America is in decline.

On Thursday, 10 April 2025 at 14:25:23 UTC+3 John Clark wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 7, 2025 at 5:06 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>> *>> In 1990 US average wages were about 20% larger than a worker in 
>>> another advanced industrial world country, but they are now about 40% 
>>> higher. ** In 1995 the average Japanese person was 54% richer than an 
>>> average person in the US in terms of GDP per capita, but today the average 
>>> American is 150% richer than the average Japanese. *
>>
>>
>> *> **How about the median?  Averages can be highly skewed due to a few 
>> billionaires.*
>>
>
> *True but irrelevant. Trump wasn't claiming that unfair trade practices 
> increase the gap between the rich and the poor, he was claiming unfair 
> (Trump is always whining about things being "unfair")  trade practices have 
> impoverished the US as a whole, and clearly that is not the case. However 
> it is true that Trump's huge tariff increase would not only reduce the per 
> capita GDP it would also increase the already huge gap between the rich and 
> the poor because a tariff is in effect a tax on the poor and middle class 
> because it is a tax on consumables and durable goods, and they spend a far 
> larger percentage of their meager income on that than the super rich do. *
>
> *I note that yesterday Trump blinked and reduced his very very imbecilic 
> tariffs so that now they're only very imbecilic. With two exceptions Trump 
> put a 10% tariff  on every nation in the world, which is still extremely 
> high, during the Obama administration when the economy was growing at an 
> extremely rapid rate the average tariff was only about 2.5%.  *
>
> *One exception is Russia, Trump put a 0.0% tariff on Russia but put a 10% 
> tariff on Ukraine. The other exception is what is perhaps our most 
> important trade partner, China. Yesterday Trump increased the Chinese 
> tariff from 105% to 125%, although in practice that increase makes little 
> difference because either figure effectively brings any trade between the 
> two nations to a complete halt; China, of course, retaliated and put an 84% 
> tariff on US goods sent to China.  Most of the goods we sent to China are 
> agricultural products, so this would hurt farmers the most and they are 
> some of Trump's strongest supporters.  This is a classic lose lose 
> solution.*
>
> *Apparently what convinced Trump to back down is that historically when we 
> had a huge stock market drop like we've had over the last few days there 
> was a corresponding increase in the safe haven of government bonds, but 
> that didn't happen this time. There was weak demand for new US Treasury 
> debt because foreign countries were not  buying new US Treasury bonds and 
> were selling the ones they already had. *
>
> *Inside Trump’s tariff retreat: How fears of a bond market catastrophe 
> convinced Trump to hit the pause button* 
> <https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/politics/trump-tariffs-retreat-bond-market/index.html>
>
>   *John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
> <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
>
> ooh
>  
>
>
>
> *A resident of the poorest American State, Mississippi, has a higher per 
>> capita GDP than the average resident of Britain or France or Japan. *
>>
>> *Today the US economy is the envy of the world, but Donald Trump will 
>> soon put an end to that! *
>>
>> Already has.  Like many international relations, trade depends largely on 
>> trust...and *nobody* can trust The Donald.
>>
>

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