Can't we do consciousness studies with neurobiology? A;so, there's neen some 
interesting articles lately that seem to be evidential concerning panpsychism, 
via computer science, and astrophysics, specifically. Lots of videos too, many 
of them doubtful. 
    On Sunday, April 20, 2025 at 06:33:53 AM EDT, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything 
List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:   

 The current religion decides. If the "research" is about matter, all the 
money. If the research is about consciousness, 0 money.

On Sunday, 20 April 2025 at 01:54:51 UTC+3 Russell Standish wrote:

On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 04:42:17PM +0000, 'spudb...@aol.com' via Everything 
List wrote:
> My criticism of the Dems is we have gives tens of trillions over the decades
> with little return on investment, considering the cash spent. Secondly, as I
> hold, scientists who let their Ideology Eclipse theiir Intellect, are of no 
> use
> to the rest of the species. Gentlemen, if you get furious over little with us
> nornies, then yes, you have misread the room. But of course, you don't care.
> Basdic research is the essence of science, but the lead time toi usefulness is
> problematic. Tell us why we should fund you John? Where's the ROI? 
> 

There is a well-known anecdote about Michael Faraday, who exhibited an
early form of an electric motor in 1821, and was asked what was the use
of his electromagnetism. His response was "what is the use of a
baby?".

The question should not be whether society invests in scientific
research - it should be, and at a few percent of GDP, is modest,
affordable and it has historically had extremely high ROI given
long-enough time. The question should be who decides which scientific
programmes get the money. I can see problems with all the usual
choices: the scientists themselves, nameless bureaucrats, the
broligarchs, or politicians like Trump.

Cheers

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