Nobody is doing neuroscience, given that they have the religion of "brain 
producing consciousness". If the initial philosophy is wrong, all the 
subsequent work is pure garbage.

On Friday, 2 May 2025 at 19:09:23 UTC+3 [email protected] wrote:

> You sir, and now doing philosophy of science. Like let us say, John Leslie 
> in Canada, or some happy guys on Philpapers. The harder part is testing, 
> measuring, observing and the publishng conclusions for others. Philosophers 
> are great, but they ain't doing neuro-science. Reading neuroscientists, 
> yes, but not doing the sweat work.
>
> On Thursday, May 1, 2025 at 04:45:31 PM EDT, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything 
> List <[email protected]> wrote: 
> So you are saying that they are good Starcraft players. Science should be 
> about understanding reality, not about playing Starcraft.
>
> On Thursday, 1 May 2025 at 23:18:02 UTC+3 [email protected] wrote:
>
> They achieve STEM because they innately possess excellent math & learning 
> ability. 
> There's a mega ton of people without great math skills who cannot adjust 
> to the real world. In the West they head for alcohol and drugs. 
>
> Meanwhile there's this for you to consider: 
> AI models routinely lie when honesty conflicts with their goals
> Sounds human to me! 
>
> AI models routinely lie when honesty conflicts with their goals 
> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/ai-models-routinely-lie-when-honesty-conflicts-with-their-goals/ar-AA1E0dIH?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=419abea71ab240c7a358da9c72aded13&ei=46>
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> MSN
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> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/ai-models-routinely-lie-when-honesty-conflicts-with-their-goals/ar-AA1E0dIH?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=419abea71ab240c7a358da9c72aded13&ei=46>
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> On Thursday, May 1, 2025 at 02:22:20 PM EDT, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything 
> List <[email protected]> wrote: 
> Do people become scientists just because they are unable to adjust to the 
> real world ? 
>
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