Down with the american imperialism! On Saturday, 3 May 2025 at 15:08:42 UTC+3 Alan Grayson wrote:
> On Saturday, May 3, 2025 at 2:39:17 AM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote: > > As usual: the powerful award themselves, lol. > > > For an UNconscious prick like you, it's funny. AG > > > On Friday, 2 May 2025 at 22:05:53 UTC+3 John Clark wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Paul Krugman from Paul Krugman* <[email protected]> > Date: Fri, May 2, 2025 at 11:40 AM > Subject: MAGA’s War on Science > To: <[email protected]> > > > Why do these people believe that ignorance is strength? > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ > > Forwarded this email? 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I just gave my presentation at a conference in > Rotterdam, Robin is up soon, so just two notes. > > First, about the employment report. I’ve seen some descriptions of this as > a post-tariff report. C’mon, people. Job numbers for a given month are > actually for the pay period including the 12th of the month. So these > numbers are for early April, reflecting the number of jobs at most a few > days after Trump’s Liberation Day (ugh) announcement of massive tariffs. > They tell us nothing — positive or negative — about the tariffs’ impact. > > A larger point. Many of us have long noted the growing hostility of the > G.O.P. to science. But my experience was that many people viewed those > raising the alarm — like Chris Mooney, who wrote a 2005 book titled The > Republican War on Science > <https://substack.com/redirect/ae88daa3-52c6-4e96-81bb-9f0213b2055c?j=eyJ1IjoiNngzbm4ifQ.I1PMvYo4mI3PquTDRhL5Dev-9_ouIq3kw6ZhrVNsy8o> > > — as over the top scaremongers. > > But at this point, can we acknowledge that MAGA is indeed waging war on > science? Not just “woke” stuff, but science in general. > > *Nature* tells us > <https://substack.com/redirect/b15e6967-4a69-4d4a-b3a5-b802d1284c1a?j=eyJ1IjoiNngzbm4ifQ.I1PMvYo4mI3PquTDRhL5Dev-9_ouIq3kw6ZhrVNsy8o> > > that National Science Foundation funds have been frozen, and that even if > some money eventually flows again, funding will be heavily politicized: > > Staff members at the US National Science Foundation (NSF) were told on 30 > April to “stop awarding all funding actions until further notice,” > according to an email seen by *Nature*. > > The policy prevents the NSF, one of the world’s biggest supporters of > basic research > <https://substack.com/redirect/e0d6517a-59ae-412d-b97b-e1e5ceb0ce22?j=eyJ1IjoiNngzbm4ifQ.I1PMvYo4mI3PquTDRhL5Dev-9_ouIq3kw6ZhrVNsy8o>, > > from awarding new research grants and from supplying allotted funds for > existing grants, such as those that receive yearly increments of money. The > email does not provide a reason for the freeze and says that it will last > “until further notice”. > > Earlier this week, NSF leadership also introduced a new policy directing > staff members to screen grant proposals for “topics or activities that may > not be in alignment with agency priorities”. Proposals judged not “in > alignment” must be returned to the applicants by NSF employees. The policy > has not been made public but was described in documents seen by *Nature*. > > In effect, NSF, if it supports research at all, will only support research > that tells MAGA what it wants to hear. Add in RFK Jr.’s savage cuts at the > National > Institutes of Health > <https://substack.com/redirect/be8e1131-f619-48c3-9014-04b32c0da34f?j=eyJ1IjoiNngzbm4ifQ.I1PMvYo4mI3PquTDRhL5Dev-9_ouIq3kw6ZhrVNsy8o>, > > budget cuts at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the > Trump administration’s attacks on research universities, and we’re looking > at a near-collapse of U.S. science. I don’t mean a hypothetical collapse a > few years down the road, but the destruction of large parts of the American > scientific enterprise — the envy of the world just a few months ago — *this > year.* > > Why should those who aren’t scientists care? In the 21st century, science > isn’t some esoteric intellectual affair. It’s the foundation of social and > economic progress. And no, we can’t expect the private sector to fill the > gap left by loss of government support. Basic research is a public good > <https://substack.com/redirect/2d7c1c9d-08a9-4f51-a0ea-db0272015842?j=eyJ1IjoiNngzbm4ifQ.I1PMvYo4mI3PquTDRhL5Dev-9_ouIq3kw6ZhrVNsy8o>: > > it generates real benefits, but those benefits can’t be monetized because > everyone can make use of the knowledge gained. So government support is the > only way to sustain science. And that support is being rapidly ended. > > But why do our new rulers want to destroy science in America? Sadly, the > answer is obvious: Science has a tendency to tell you things you may not > want to hear. Medical research may tell you that vaccines work and don’t > cause autism. Energy research may tell wind power works and doesn’t > massacre birds. > > And one thing we know about MAGA types is that they are determined to hold > on to their prejudices. If science conflicts with those prejudices, they > don’t want to know, and they don’t want anyone else to know either. So they > really want to destroy science. > > Again, this isn’t hyperbole, and it’s not about the long run. American > science is being gutted as you read this. > > MUSICAL CODA > > Ignorance is your new best friend > > <https://substack.com/redirect/62c5d0cf-019d-4422-860a-b844666b237f?j=eyJ1IjoiNngzbm4ifQ.I1PMvYo4mI3PquTDRhL5Dev-9_ouIq3kw6ZhrVNsy8o> > > You're currently a free subscriber to Paul Krugman > <https://substack.com/redirect/c0976eef-0825-4273-b805-75cd1afed54d?j=eyJ1IjoiNngzbm4ifQ.I1PMvYo4mI3PquTDRhL5Dev-9_ouIq3kw6ZhrVNsy8o>. > > For the full experience, upgrade your subscription. > 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