>From: Bruno Marchal
>I just said you were deadly wrong here, but rereading your post I find it
>Let me comment anyway.
>Human classical teleportation, although possible in principle, will not be
>possible in our life time (except for those who will succeed in some lucky
>cryogenisation process). Artificial brain will first be developed with
>graft of genetically engineered animals neurons, through progress in
>harnessing the immune system and prion diseases (that will take time). Only
>latter will come "purely" artificial digital brain, and even this will be a
>matter of piece by piece progress (artificial hypocampus, artificial limbic
>system, .... until artificial cortex (this one will take perhaps a
>millenium), and pionner of immortality will have hard time for many
>technical but also social and ethical reasons.
Thanks for your patience. I can see that you are really very patient because
you often reply many similar
questions that you may have replied hundreds of times before.
Although I appreciate your patience, I still don't agree with you about the
When we say teleportation, we mean we send someone from location A to
location B *like a magic* (Start Trek stuff).
The person at A is *exactly* the same as the one at B. This really has
little to do with digital or artificial stuff.
Human body and brain are analog, same for A & B. It's useless to use digital
or artificial conversion (since I assume no substitution level).
If I have a scar on my left hand, you need to teleport this scar also. Same
for any of my old memories.
We are not talking about the teleportation of some *standard PC parts* (like
the CPU/HDD) from A to B.
>But where I think you are wrong is that articial brain and body, even if it
>needs a millenium of work to succeed with some reasonable probability, will
>not really help us in understanding the brain and its functioning. It just
>happens that, even if it is *very* difficult, the copy of a brain is almost
>infinitely easier that the understanding of how a brain work (even assuming
>some high substitution level).
Assume no substitution level, if you can teleport me (a male) from A to B
and let me agree completely that I am *exactly* (body, memory, consciousness
etc.) the same me,
I think it will let us own the complete understanding of the so-called
consciousness, existence of soul? ... such big questions.
>To be sure here comp says something rather negative: humans brains will
>never completely understand the human brain. It is true that the 3000 AD
>humans will perhaps eventually understand the basics of 2000 AD human's
>brain, but only true their own bigger "brain" (including self-developing
>machine) which will be beyond their comprehension. A little like bacteria
>and amoeba "learns" to reproduce themselves without any higher level
>understanding of what is going on.
See my comment above. Sooner or later, I think human beings will have
>Of course if comp is correct we can understand very fundamental principles
>which are at the "logical origin" of the realities .... (that's what we are
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