On Friday, June 6, 2025 at 5:07:35 PM UTC-6 Alan Grayson wrote:

On Friday, June 6, 2025 at 1:24:12 PM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 9:51 AM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:

*>>> In CM it can be shown that the sum of kinetic and potential energy is 
unchanged. The proof isn't difficult. AG**In* CM it can be shown that the 
sum of kinetic and potential energy is unchanged. The proof isn't diffiultAG


*>> BULLSHIT!  The conservation of energy is not a statement about pure 
mathematics or logic, it is a statement about the physical world, so it's 
not surprising that historically its derivation has come from observation 
and experimentation. Nobody has ever been able to derive the conservation 
of energy from logic alone, and I very much doubt anybody ever will. In 
fact nobody has ever been able to derive ANY physical law from mathematics 
alone, unless you want to say that it's a physical law that 2 rocks plus 
another 2 rocks is equal to 4 rocks.  *


*>You're mistaken.*


*BULLSHIT!*

* > Look it up. AG*


*I can't, it doesn't exist. *

 
* John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*


Try this, by Feynman, 
https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/8-01sc-classical-mechanics-fall-2016/mit8_01scs22_chapter14.pdf

AG


If you look, you'll see that Feynman shows that in classical mechanics, 
energy is conserved on a closed loop. He proves many other things about 
energy conservation in that link. AG 

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