Why is everyone talking about abstract computation? Of _course_ 1st person
is prime = Has primacy in description of the universe. Being a portion of
any structure (ME) trying to model the structure (the UNIVERSE) from within
it (ME as scientist inside/part of the universe) is intrinsically and
innately presented with that which is _not_ the structure of ME (NOT ME).
This applies at all scales (eg ME = an atom, ME = a galaxy).

An _abstract_ computation/model X implemented symbolically on a of a portion
of the structure (a COMPUTER) inside the structure (the UNIVERSE) will see
the universe as "NOT COMPUTER", not some function of the machinations of X,
the model. Eg The first person perspective of a register in a computer
holding a quantity N must be that of being a register in a computer, not
that of 'being' a quantity N.

The only computation going on around us is literally the universe. WE are
computations within it. We can only ever acquire data about it from the
perspective of being in it.

Maybe you're not talking about the same universe as me. We're trying to get
to grips with our universe, yes? I don't get it. Then again I seem not to
get a lot. :-)

Colin hales





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