On Sat, Jul 26, 2025 at 6:34 PM Alan Grayson <agrayson2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *Suppose I *choose UP*/DN axis along the path the electron moves when
> exiting the apparatus, and RT/LT perpendicular to that axis. In this case,
> you cannot write UP or DN as a linear combination of RT/LT. It's like the
> situation I previously cited in the plane using the orthogonal unit vectors
> as basis vectors.* [...] *Suppose I *choose UP*/DN axis along the path
> the electron moves when exiting the apparatus, and RT/LT perpendicular to
> that axis. In this case, you cannot write UP or DN as a linear combination
> of RT/LT. *


*Your reasoning would be perfectly correct if we were dealing with
classical vectors where the components of directional vectors are real
numbers in 3D space and orthogonal components are 100% independent. But
quantum spin states are not like that, they're vectors in 2-dimensional
Hilbert space and, unlike the sort of vectors that classical physics
usually uses, they absolutely require imaginary numbers. And even though
the experiment is being performed in 3-D space the electron only has two
independent bases states not three. Regardless of if you choose to measure
up-down or right-left you're working in the same 2D Hilbert space where any
state expressible in one basis can be written in the other.*

*I know that everything I said in the above sounds very weird verging on
the ridiculous, however the truth of it has been experimentally confirmed!
If you prepare electrons in the up state and then measure them along the
right left orthogonal axis you always get a 50-50 probability. That would
be impossible with classical vectors made of independent components, but
not if the vectors are composed of quantum states. And it's important to
remember that although we use the words up, down, right and left they
should be thought of as quantum states NOT directions. Your intuition is
fine in classical physics but nobody's intuition is of much use in Quantum
Mechanics. *

John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
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