On Sunday, August 24, 2025 at 7:14:39 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 7:25 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

*>I don't follow your claim. AG*


*If you want to understand the nature of time and why it only moves in one 
direction, the science of thermodynamics can explain half of that puzzle, 
but only half. If tomorrow is different from today, which by definition it 
must be, and there are astronomically more ways to be disordered than 
ordered, then the overwhelming probability will be that tomorrow will be 
more disordered and have a correspondingly higher entropy than today. BUT 
**yesterday 
was also different from today by definition, and it's still true that there 
are far more ways to be disordered than ordered, so yesterday should also 
be more disordered and have a correspondingly higher entropy than 
today. And that is very clearly untrue! *


You don't seem to like entropy increasing forward and backward in time. Why 
not? AG
 

*The only way out of this predicament is to insert a new axiom, the 
universe started out in a very low entropy state. And because it's an axiom 
it of course has no proof.*


One of my axioms is that Something cannot transform into Nothing, and 
Nothing cannot transform into Something. Do you find this axiom completely 
ridiculous or just somehow inconvenient in that it contradicts GR wrt 
energy conservation? But I take it you accept one of the Principles of 
Logic which I recently posted, and you should take note that it is also 
unprovable. AG 


* John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* 
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