On Wednesday, August 27, 2025 at 4:34:41 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 4:16 AM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote: *> not by any means that a point particle photon has a physical wave which can be stretched. Nowhere am I denying that the universe is expanding. Rather, I am pointing out the lack of plausibility of a model routinely offered to explain redshifting. AG* *So you believe a photon is a point particle that has no wavelike properties and that's that. But then why does conventional Doppler shifting occur, if it's nothing but a point particle why does a photon undergo red shifting if it's emitted from a source that's moving through space away from a detector? If moving through space can cause a redshift then why can't the expansion of space do the same thing? **And I've asked this question before but received no answer, if the expansion of space doesn't expand the wavelength of light then what the hell does it expand? If your answer is "nothing" then "the expansion of space" means nothing and Einstein was writing gibberish. Is that really the hill you're willing to die on?* *After numerous iterations, you still don't have a clue about the issue I am raising. I am NOT claiming that a photon has no wavelike properties, or that redshifting over cosmological distances doesn't occur. Rather, that your MODEL of redshifting makes no sense. If it's a point particle, with no extention in space, how do you get from there, to a MODEL which affirms a wave that can be stretched? AG* *These days physicists are much more interested in fields than they are in particles. Looked at through the lens of quantum field theory, an electron is just a quantized wave resonance in the electron field, and a quark is a quantized wave resonance in the quark field. An electron may be a point particle but that doesn't mean it behaves like a tiny billiard ball. * *John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* q -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e9f308e8-1ac8-4e64-bd4e-3618f93619f9n%40googlegroups.com.
