On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 3:09 PM Alan Grayson <agrayson2...@gmail.com> wrote:

*>>> Actually, sometimes even in pure mathematics we can't always reach
>>> absolute conclusions, a good example of which is the CONTINUUM HYPOTHESIS.
>>> AG *
>>
>>
*>> But it has been proven you can assume  that the continuum hypothesis is
> true or you can assume that the continuum hypothesis is not true, but
> neither assumption will produce a contradiction to existing mathematics. It
> doesn't matter, so to my mind that indicates that the continuum hypothesis
> is just not very important. *


> *> What's "important" here is in the mind of mathematicans. And IMO you've
> misstated the result. AG*


*In 1940 Kurt Gödel proved that the truth of the Continuum Hypothesis is
consistent with existing mathematics, that is to say if it's true then it
would not change anything. In 1963 Paul Cohen proved that the NEGATION of
the Continuum Hypothesis is ALSO consistent with existing mathematics. As a
result of these developments I don't think the Continuum Hypothesis is
meaningless but I do think it's unimportant. I say that because, if neither
the truth nor the falsehood of a conjecture would change anything and if
the word has any meaning then that conjecture is "unimportant". *

*And we can't just add the Continuum Hypothesis as an axiom because an
axiom needs to be simple and self-evidently true, and the Continuum
Hypothesis is neither of those things. And the same thing could be said
about its negation.*

 *John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
aoc

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