On Sunday, September 14, 2025 at 1:52:35 AM UTC-6 Alan Grayson wrote:

On Saturday, September 13, 2025 at 9:20:03 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:



On 9/13/2025 12:42 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:



*Your problem with the turnaround scenario is that you have apparently 
forgotten high school physics, where velocity is a vector having magnitude 
and direction, and **acceleration, which you want to avoid, is DEFINED as a 
change in velocity. Hence, **anything subject to a gravitational field is 
generally accelerating. *

In GR free-fall is not accelerating.  It is following the geodesic 
(straightest possible) path thru spacetime.

Brent


*You're not listening. Firstly, you claim you want to solve the TP without 
GR and without accelerating, yet you're invoking GR right here, directly. 
Secondly, I know about E's happy thought. But frankly I don't see how 
anyone can claim there's no accelerating when it's staring you in the face? 
I wonder how E resolved his happiest thought when accelerating surely 
exists in GR! It's still DEFINED as change in velocity AG* 


*No question about it. You're a F'ing genious! Anyone with eyes can SEE 
it's accelerating. And any high school student of physics can MEASURE its 
acceleration, but the resident Relativity expert, PH'D in physics from the 
University of Texas, Austin, about the best university in the WORLD for 
PHYSICS, says it's NOT accelerating. AG *

*Also, you're invoking GR when you claim there are no forces, presumably 
thinking that since F=ma, there can't be any acceleration in GR. I know 
that E's major insight was that gravity isn't a force, so invoking this 
insight is presumably why you claim there's no acceleration in the 
turnaround. But there is! It's undeniable. I can't find any error in your 
triplet scenario. AG* 

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