This idea also goes by the name of "Machievellian intelligence hypothesis" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavellian_intelligence_hypothesis).
Also - I hope it is true that biological/technoological cyborgisation is the end-state of the Singularity, but I don't think there's any guarantees of that. On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 04:08:43PM -0500, John Clark wrote: > > Coincidentally just a few hours after I started this thread I found another > article about Recursive Exponential Improvement, although that particular > phrase is not used. It's from yesterday's issue of the journal Nature. > > What is the future of intelligence? The answer could lie in the story of its > evolution > > The article is well worth reading in its entirety, but it is rather long, here > are the parts that I found most interesting: > > "A predator must predict actions that will get the prey into its stomach; the > prey must predict the predator’s behaviour to stop that from happening. > Starting in the 1970s, neuropsychologists and anthropologists began to realize > that other intelligent entities are often the most important parts of the > environment to model — because they are the ones modelling you back, whether > with friendly or hostile intent. Increasingly intelligent predators put > evolutionary pressure on their prey to become smarter, and vice versa." > > "The pressures towards intelligence become even more intense for members of > social species. Winning mates, sharing resources, gaining followers, teaching, > learning and dividing labour: all of these involve modelling and predicting > the > minds of others. But the more intelligent you become — the better to predict > the minds of others (at least in theory) — the more intelligent, and thus hard > to predict, those others have also become, because they are of the same > species > and doing the same thing. These runaway dynamics produce ‘intelligence > explosions’. Over the past billion years, symbiogenesis has produced > increasingly complex nervous systems, colonies of social animals — and > eventually our own technological society. Is this nature’s version of Moore’s > law?" > > "Since around 2006, transistors have continued to shrink, but the rise in > semiconductor operating speed has stalled. To keep increasing computer > performance, chip-makers are instead adding more processing cores. They began, > in other words, to parallelize silicon-based computation. It’s no coincidence > that this is when modern, neural-net-based AI models finally began to take > off." > > "AI is not distinct from humanity, but rather is a recent addition to a > mutually interdependent superhuman entity we are all already part of. An > entity > that has long been partly biological, partly technological — and always wholly > computational. The picture of the future that emerges here is sunnier than > that > often painted by researchers studying the ethics of AI or its existential > risks > for humanity. People often presume that evolution — and intelligence — are > zero-sum optimization processes, and that AI is both alien to and competitive > with humanity. The symbiogenetic view does not guarantee positive outcomes, > but > neither does it position AI as an alien ‘other’, nor the future as a > Malthusian > tug-of-war over resources between humans and machines." > > John K Clark > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 7:08 AM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Last week Google introduced Gemini-3 and against all the benchmarks it > easily beat all other AI's. However, its superiority did not last long. > Yesterday Anthropic introduced Claude Opus-4.5 and it easily beat Gemini-3 > in the ability to write computer code. One thing I found particularly > interesting, since it started Anthropic has always had a policy that > before > they hired anybody they gave them a notoriously difficult computer > programming test that the applicant could take home and bring back the > next > day; they decided to give Claude Opus-4.5 that test and give it a two hour > time limit to complete it. The result was Claude Opus-4.5 got a higher > score on coding ability than ANY human candidate ever had! If that isn't > screaming "recursive exponential improvement" I don't know what could. > > And to think, some people are still worried about trivialities like the > war > on Christmas, illegal immigration, global warming, and the US not > balancing > the budget. > > Claude Opus 4.5 just dropped > > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > 2df > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email > to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list > /CAJPayv0-xRe-tU91QJKbajo3dAk-uE06x_bp0wAbsi%3DnFKwTJQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders [email protected] http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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