I just checked with AI again. Gemini says the following: 

"The Luminosity Distance ($D_L$) *is a measure that accounts for the 
expansion*, but precisely *because* it includes the energy loss and time 
dilation effects of the expansion, it gives a distance value that is 
*larger* than the current, real physical distance (Proper Distance, $D_P$) 
[1.2].

The standard candle provides $D_L$, but you need to know the redshift ($z$) 
and use the cosmological model to truly calculate the Proper Distance ($D_P$
).

On Sunday, December 14, 2025 at 4:44:28 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote:

> I plan to check it out again, but I'm pretty sure AI claimed the Hubble's 
> law gives us the velocity and distance of galaxies in the present, NOW. WRT 
> distance, it claims that using standard candles, we get the actual distance 
> NOW, not the distance when the light left some galaxy 10 billion years ago. 
> Is there concurrence among the humans here? TY, AG

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