Le 21-août-06, à 17:42, 1Z a écrit :

> The point I was trying to make was that I don't have to define > exactly what my existence is. (Bruno's rationalism makes > him think no question can can be settled unless it can be exactly > defined; my empiricism makes me believe there are Brute > Facts which are true even if we don't understand their nature). And then we can at least propose theory to figure out where those non definable things come from. Note that I show that the notion of first person is necessarily not definable by any first person. precisely: a lobian machine can define it for a much simpler lobian machine. No lobian machine can defined its own notion of first person. It is necessarily fuzzy, from her point of view. This requires some notion in mathematical logic. See the roadmap posts. Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---