Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> Russell Standish writes:
>
> > > Is there any reason to believe that we would lose consciousness, or notice
> > > that anything strange had happened at all, if most or all of the parallel 
> > > branches
> > > in the multiverse suddenly vanished?
> > >
> >
> > I think this question is ill-posed, but I'll try to answer another
> > question that may have some bearing on what your trying to get at.
>
> OK, the question is ill-posed if we jump ahead to deciding that the 
> consciousness
> of a computation consists in its status as a mathematical object in Platonia, 
> because
> it isn't really possible even in theory that some part of Platonia did not 
> exist.

It is very possible that Platonism is false.

> > The Game of Life is known to be Turing complete. However, I do not
> > think any arrangement of dots in GoL could be conscious. Rather there
> > is an arrangement that implements a universal dovetailer. The UD is
> > quite possibly enough to emulate the full Multiverse (this is sort of where
> > Bruno's partail results are pointing), which we know contain conscious
> > processes.
>
> That's putting it inversely compared to my (naive) understanding of how the 
> UD works.
> I would have said
> (a) some programs are associated with consciousness
> (b) the UD emulates all programs
> (c) hence, the UD emulates all the conscious programs
>
> In particular, I would have said that some sequence of frames in GoL is 
> associated with
> a particular consciousness that can interact with the universe providing the 
> substrate of
> its implementation, because we can observe the patterns, maybe even link them 
> to real
> world events.

That is a strange passage. Are you saying that he links woudl
be
a) causal
b) coincidental
c) there is no difference between a) and b).

> This does not necessarily mean that the consciousness is caused by or
> supervenes on the pattern of dots, any more that the number 3 is caused by or 
> supervenes
> on a collection of 3 objects. If anything, it could be the other way around: 
> the GoL pattern
> supervenes on, or is isomorphic with, the consciousness which resides in 
> Platonia.


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