Stathis, I don't feel like a 'defender of metaphysics', but what you talk about is the physicists' pejorative (ironical) denigration of everything they do not want to call "physics", - like superstition, fictional stupidity. Also Bruno's wording about 'theology' is different from being part of that 'old-wives' (historical) metaphysics irony you refer to. I consider the 'meta' as beyond those reductionist rules obeyed by the conventional (materialistic mathematical) physics 101. John
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stathis Papaioannou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "1Z" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 7:44 AM Subject: RE: The anti-roadmap - an alternative 'Theology' Peter jones writes: > Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > Peter Jones writes: > > > > > > > All physical theories are theories of matter (mass/energy). > > > > > > > > True, but they are not theories of what matter *actually is*. > > > > > > Hence the need for a metaphysical account of > > > matter-as-Bare-Substance to complement the > > > physicst's account of matter-as-behaviour. > > > That would be like theology. > > Theology uses the vocabulary of traditional metaphysics, but not all > traditional > metaphysics is theology Theology is a subset of metaphysics. Metaphysics does not deal with purely logical and/or empirical facts. This means you could come up with any metaphysical theory consistent with the logical and empirical facts, no matter how silly, and no-one would be able to rebutt it. For example, I could say that friction is the result of tiny, undetectable demons who try to grab my finger as I slide it against an object. Sure, there's no way to prove these demons do or don't exist, but I'm going to believe in them anyway as a metaphysical theory. Stathis Papaioannou _________________________________________________________________ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-491 1fb2b2e6d -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/427 - Release Date: 08/24/06 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
