Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> Brent meeker writes:
> > > But even existence can be defined as a bundle of properties. If I am
> > > wondering whether the pencil on my desk exists I can look at it, pick it 
> > > up,
> > > tap it and so on. If my hand passes through it when I try to pick it up
> > > then maybe it is just an illusion.
> >
> > Maybe it's a holographic projection - in which case the projection (a 
> > certain state
> > of photons) does exist, and other people can see it.  Even an illusion must 
> > exist as
> > some brain process.  I understand Peters objection to regarding a "mere 
> > bundle" of
> > properties as existent.  But I don't understand why one needs a propertyless
> > substrate.  Why not just say that some bundles of properties are 
> > instantiated and
> > some aren't.   Anyway, current physical theory is that there is a material
> > "substrate" which has properties, e.g. energy, spin, momentum,...
> Saying that there is a material substrate which has certain properties is 
> just a working
> assumption to facilitate thinking about the real world. It may turn out that 
> if we dig into
> quarks very deeply there is nothing "substantial" there at all, but solid 
> matter will still be
> solid matter, because it is defined by its properties, not by some mysterious 
> raw physical
> substrate.

I am not using the Bare Substrate to explian "solidity", which is as
you say
a matter of properties/behaviour.

I am using it to explain contingent existence, and (A series) time.

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