Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> Peter Jones writes:
>
> > > Saying that there is a material substrate which has certain properties is 
> > > just a working
> > > assumption to facilitate thinking about the real world. It may turn out 
> > > that if we dig into
> > > quarks very deeply there is nothing "substantial" there at all, but solid 
> > > matter will still be
> > > solid matter, because it is defined by its properties, not by some 
> > > mysterious raw physical
> > > substrate.
> >
> >
> > I am not using the Bare Substrate to explian "solidity", which is as
> > you say
> > a matter of properties/behaviour.
> >
> > I am using it to explain contingent existence, and (A series) time.
>
> We could say that matter is that which feels solid, reflects light, distorts 
> spacetime etc.
> and leave it at that.

However, that is mere behaviour. I need a defiition
which digs deeper than behaviour,and I have one.

>  Having these properties is necessary and sufficient for what we call
> existence, and it doesn't add anything to postulate a "bare substrate",

Solidity and light-reflection are not instantiated at every point in
space
time. There is contingent existence, i.e materiality.

>  any more than it
> adds anything to postulate an undetectable ether.
>
> Stathis Papaioannou
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