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<snip> > It must consist of the 'movement' of mathematical forms through > state space. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that > mathematical truth is not fixed, but can vary with time - because > that's exactly what 'the movement of mathematical forms through > state space' represents... the shifting of mathematical truth. > > And I suggest *that Qualia are precisely these abstract processes* !!! > > Hope this all makes a bit more sense. I would certainly encourage you in that direction, although I am not sure you are aware that even "modern math" is going in a similar direction. Seeing qualia as mathematical *motions*, as you said in another post, can be related in a precise way with the arithmetical hypostases (comp notions of n-person) once you realize that modal logic is already a way to tackle notions of shifting mathematical truth: once for each world in a multiplicity (sometimes a continuum) of worlds. Modal logic, but also Cohen's forcing technic in set theory, have led to a vast literature on variable truth. The MWI itself can be seen in that context too. The whole category approach to math and logic can also be seen as a way to study variable notion of truth, especially through the notion of topos (boolean valued or not). All what you say, as far as I understand it, can, and perhaps should, be recasted in such a frame. Note that with comp, for technical reasons which I intuit only through my "understanding" of quantum mechanics, the quanta appears themselves to be sharable (first person plural) qualia having relational and somehow variable truth values attached to it too. The advantage of modal logic and category theory is that such "variable truth" approach can be based on common non-variable usual notion of mathematical truth, making it possible to prevent extreme relativism which often appears in corresponding approaches in less rigorous philosophical works. I think this is not a problem for you, especially seeing your today's post (with which I do agree). Technical remark: all arithmetical hypostases (godel-lobian derived notion of n-persons) come equipped with their own notions of "multiverses" (not all are Kripkean one), and so they are all equipped with a canonical notion of variable truth, but only the 1-person hypostase (and probably the sensible matter hypostase) got a notion of temporal-like (albeit bifurking) notion of variability. With the other hypostases, truth varies, not in a temporal way but in a more abstract and logical way. With those remarks what you say makes sense for me, Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---