Yes, I agree that you could still have some form of QTI if there are only a finite number of states. I just don't believe in it, because I don't think the use of the relative measure is justified in case the observer isn't conserved. In all other case the absolute measure and the relative measure lead to the same predictions.

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> > Actually, in standard quantum mechanics, there is an infinity of > observer moments, 2^{\aleph_0} of them in fact. > > What you are talking about are various quantum gravity theories, such > as string theory, which appear to have a finite number of observer > moments. > > However, even if as observers we are locked into a Nietschian cycle at > some point in time due to finiteness of the number of possible states, > the number will be so large that the practical effects of QTI will > still need to be considered. > > Cheers > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Standish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:31 AM Subject: Re: Proof that QTI is false > On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 11:58:14PM +0200, Saibal Mitra wrote: > > > > QTI in the way defined in this list contradicts quantum mechanics. The > > observable part of the universe can only be in a finite number of quantum > > states. So, it can only harbor a finite number of observer moments or > > experiences a person can have, see here for details: > > > > http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0102010 > > > > If there can only be a finite number of observer moments you can only > > experience a finite amount of time. > > > > QED. > > > > > > > -- > *PS: A number of people ask me about the attachment to my email, which > is of type "application/pgp-signature". Don't worry, it is not a > virus. It is an electronic signature, that may be used to verify this > email came from me if you have PGP or GPG installed. Otherwise, you > may safely ignore this attachment. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Mathematics > UNSW SYDNEY 2052 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Australia http://parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au/rks > International prefix +612, Interstate prefix 02 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Saibal --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---