Le 14-sept.-06, à 00:52, Russell Standish a écrit :
> That the experience of time is necessarily experienced by all conscious > points of view is to my knowledge not even addressed by other > philosophers. Even Bruno seems to skirt the issue, ? (I think that consciousness is needed for *all* experience, not just experience of time). > although there is > an appearance of temporality with the S4Grz logic. Yes, the S4Grz (and actually the S4Grz1, but also the X* and X1*) can be seen as " first person or subjective time" logic, and they are close to Brouwer's theory of "time/consciousness", which has a long story from Heracliteus, StAugustin, Bergson, Brouwer, etc. Except that most of those philosopher, perhaps like David and George, makes such a first person time primitive. With comp, the experience of "Space" is more problematic. > > So I've simply made a conjecture that experience of time is necessary > for consciousness, and tried to dilute the strength of that conjecture > as far as possible. I do think that subjective time is inseparable from consciousness, or at least from mundane consciousness ( as opposed to some ecstatic high level form of experience sometimes described by mystics as being beyond time). Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---