I hope this will go through...... Colin wrote" --- Colin Geoffrey Hales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Addition to my "lost and found" 1st post in this > topic to > > Marc: > > > > I wonder how would you define besides 'universe' > and 'computer' the ----" > > IS > > "----? > > * > > I agree that 'existence' is more than a > definitional question. > > Any suggestion yet of an (insufficient?) > definition? > > (Not Descartes' s "I think therefore I think I am" > and so on) > > > > John > > > > There's only 1 thing which is intrinsic to the idea > of 'being' that I can > think of: > > Regardless of the scale (choices = quark, atom, > human, planet, galaxy), if > you are to 'be' whatever it is that comprises that > which you are 'being', > you automatically define a perspective on the rest > of the universe. It > does not mean that perspective is visible, only that > the perspective is > innate to the situation. > > So....I am made of one little chunk of the universe, > you another and so > on. My chunk is not your chunk and vice versa. If I > am an atom then I get > a view of the rest of the universe (that is > expressing an un-atom). The > rest of the universe has a perspective view of the > atom. > > This division of 'thing' and 'un-thing' within the > universe is implicit to > the situation. The division is notional from an > epistemological stand > point, where we 'objectify' to describe. That does > not alter the 'reality' > of the innate perspective 'view' involved with > 'being' the described. > > make sense? > > Colin > >It makes sense (I have to translate YOUR vocabujlaryh into mine, of course). It ramifies into "SELF" and "Not-SELF" and into the "relational view" of the totality. Also: it leads into my old beef that "everything" is consckious at its own level. What to include into 'everything' is of course a matter of debate, it mayh err into physicalism or some materialistic view of the world. Thank, Colin, I have to digest it John --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
