Colin Geoffrey Hales wrote: > > > > You don't think paramecium behaviour could be modelled on a computer? > > > > Stathis Papaiaonnou > > A paramecium can behave like it's perceiving something. I haven't observed > it myself but I have spoken to people who have and they say they have > behaviours which betray some sort of awareness beyond the scope of their > boundary.
Perception can occur *at* a boundary. Touch is perception. > A teeny paramecium-sized primitive external world model. A teeny > bit of adaptive behaviour. > > So a computer model?.... > > A) that included a model of those aspects of the physics participating in > what the paramecium could have as experiences. > B) That included all the molecular pathways (cilia molecules, the lot) > C) that included a model of the response to the perceptual physics > D) That included a model of the environment of the paramecium > > would be pretty good. But the model would not be having experiences. Because...? > There's the age old distinction between [modelling perfectly] and [the > perfect model]. The former aims at "realistic replication". The latter > aims at "suited to task". I think you could get pretty close to it > behaviourally. Maybe indistinguishable. > > The way to test it? Make the model drive a nano-robot paramecium shell. > Then let it live with real paramecium. Then expose both to novelty and see > what the differences are. Why should there be any? Any AI worthy of the name will learn form experience. Doing so at a human level has not been achieved, doing so a the paramecium level might be a lot easier. > I don't think any amount of detail will ever make the model or the > computer it is running on have experiences... That's an opinion, not an argument. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---