>
>
> Colin Hales writes:
>
>> The very fact that the laws of physics, derived and validated using
>> phenomenality, cannot predict or explain how appearances are generated
>> is
>> proof that the appearance generator is made of something else and that
>> something else else is the reality involved, which is NOT
>> appearances, but independent of them.
>>
>> I know that will sound weird...
>>
>> >
>> >> The only science you can do is "I hypothesise that when I activate
>> this
>> >> nerve, that sense nerve and this one do <this>"
>> >
>> > And I call regularities in my perceptions the "external world", which
>> > becomes so
>> > familiar to me that I forget it is a hypothesis.
>>
>> Except that in time, as people realise what I just said above, the
>> hypothesis has some emprical support: If the universe were made of
>> appearances when we opened up a cranium we'd see them. We don't. We see
>> something generating/delivering them - a brain. That difference is the
>> proof.
>
> I don't really understand this. We see that chemical reactions
> in the brain generate consciousness, so why not stop at that?
> In Gilbert Ryle's words, "the mind is what
> the brain does". It's mysterious, and it's not well
> understood, but it's still just chemistry.

I have heard this 3 times now!

1) Marvin Minski... not sure where but people quote it.
2) Derek Denton, "The primordial emotions..."
and now
3) Gilbert Ryle!

Who really said it? Not that it matters.... OK...back to business....

ask your self:

"If the mind is what the brain does, then what exactly is a coffee cup
doing?"

For that question is just as valid and has just as complex an
answer....yet we do not ask it. Every object in the universe is like this.
This is the mother of all anthropomorphisms.

There is a view of the universe from the perspective of being a coffee cup
and it is being equivalently created by whatever is the difference between
it and a brain. And you are not entitled to say 'Nothing', all you can say
is that there's no brain material, so it isn't like a brain. You can make
no assertion as to the actual experience because describing a brain does
NOT explain the causality of it....Hot cup? Cold cup? Full? Empty? All the
same? Not the same? None of these questions are helped by the "what the
brain does" bandaid excuse for proper science. Glaring missing physics.

Zombie room has been deployed... OK dogs... do your worst! Attack!

:-)

Colin









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