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this was the last post I received (I think I am subscribed)
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John Mikes
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bruno Marchal 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:27 AM
  Subject: Re: Natural Order & Belief


  You are right, I was wrong. Those deeds are not contingent. They 
  probably appears automatically when one give a name to God.

  Perhaps, "God" could be "defined" by this: it is the one which is such 
  that once you give it a name or a definition trouble appears.

  Obviously such a sentence should not be taken to much literally (if we 
  do we are led to an obvious inconsistency).

  So, from now on, each time I use the word "God" it will means the 
  impersonal big unnameable 0-person point of view, that is Plotinus' 
  ONE, and/or some of its possible arithmetical (set theoretical) 
  interpretation(s), that is arithmetical truth (resp. set theoretical 

  I will recall the theory in my reply to Tom Caylor.


  Le 20-nov.-06, à 18:03, John M a écrit :

  > Bruno:
  > How far Occident? Quetzealcoatle was not much better.
  > Orientals? did they care at all? they were occupied
  > with their lovers. Germanics and Scandinavians? no
  > better, not to spek about Maori, African, Hawaiian
  > etc.
  > requiring virgins to be thrown into the Volcano. The
  > priests of the smarter ones ate them.
  > Did you notice the Catholic homophag rite: "Take it
  > and eat it: it is my body. Drink it: it is my blood.
  > And literary thousands of protestant rites follow
  > suit.
  > Muslims cleaned that up, they concentrate on heavennly
  > sex (hueis).
  > Sorry if I hurt feelings.
  > John
  > --- Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >> Le 18-nov.-06, à 21:49, John M a écrit :
  >>> Why do the religions (almost all of them) depict a
  >> god after the worst
  >>> human
  >>> characters: jealous, flatterable, requiring praise
  >> and  blind
  >>> obedience,
  >>> vengeful, irate, picking favorites,
  >>> even sadistic and not caring? Why does he punish
  >> for deeds done
  >>> exactly as
  >>> he created the sinner?
  >> I disagree with the "(almost all of them)". True,
  >> since a long time, in
  >> Occident, the main religions are based on such a
  >> "God", probably
  >> because he looks like the "terrifying father", very
  >> useful to
  >> manipulate people by fear and terror.
  >> But this is contingent, and eventually I take that
  >> sad contingent truth
  >> as a supplementary motivation to come back on
  >> "serious theology", by
  >> which I mean 3-person sharable theology (even if
  >> such a theology does
  >> talk about first person unsharable notion).
  >> Bruno
  > >


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