Dear list: this was the last post I received (I think I am subscribed) Have I been (or the list?) terminated? John Mikes ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:27 AM Subject: Re: Natural Order & Belief
John, You are right, I was wrong. Those deeds are not contingent. They probably appears automatically when one give a name to God. Perhaps, "God" could be "defined" by this: it is the one which is such that once you give it a name or a definition trouble appears. Obviously such a sentence should not be taken to much literally (if we do we are led to an obvious inconsistency). So, from now on, each time I use the word "God" it will means the impersonal big unnameable 0-person point of view, that is Plotinus' ONE, and/or some of its possible arithmetical (set theoretical) interpretation(s), that is arithmetical truth (resp. set theoretical truth). I will recall the theory in my reply to Tom Caylor. Bruno Le 20-nov.-06, à 18:03, John M a écrit : > > Bruno: > How far Occident? Quetzealcoatle was not much better. > Orientals? did they care at all? they were occupied > with their lovers. Germanics and Scandinavians? no > better, not to spek about Maori, African, Hawaiian > etc. > requiring virgins to be thrown into the Volcano. The > priests of the smarter ones ate them. > Did you notice the Catholic homophag rite: "Take it > and eat it: it is my body. Drink it: it is my blood. > And literary thousands of protestant rites follow > suit. > Muslims cleaned that up, they concentrate on heavennly > sex (hueis). > Sorry if I hurt feelings. > John > > --- Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> Le 18-nov.-06, à 21:49, John M a écrit : >> >>> Why do the religions (almost all of them) depict a >> god after the worst >>> human >>> characters: jealous, flatterable, requiring praise >> and blind >>> obedience, >>> vengeful, irate, picking favorites, >>> even sadistic and not caring? Why does he punish >> for deeds done >>> exactly as >>> he created the sinner? >> >> >> I disagree with the "(almost all of them)". True, >> since a long time, in >> Occident, the main religions are based on such a >> "God", probably >> because he looks like the "terrifying father", very >> useful to >> manipulate people by fear and terror. >> >> But this is contingent, and eventually I take that >> sad contingent truth >> as a supplementary motivation to come back on >> "serious theology", by >> which I mean 3-person sharable theology (even if >> such a theology does >> talk about first person unsharable notion). >> >> Bruno >> >> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.11/543 - Release Date: 11/20/2006 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
