Actually, John M, I believe in wave-packets (relevant to my off-list posts to you recently). I'm not a fan of 'gravitons' .. unless they turn out to be 'knots of spacetime'.
But even if all you say is correct .. at some point in a chain of logical causality relations .. either notions stay consistent, or, an anomaly arises that requires development of a new-'imagined'. I wrote the conjecture to the list, because if those several 'conditions' have been presumed valid locally and individually, but, when weighed in, all together,\ don't stay consistently valid for all the factors/relations, then something's amiss, and I felt it worthwhile to state a conjunction situation that seems to point to such a dis-connect - an 'ooops' in the consistency fabric. I was more hoping for a discussion about where/how the mathematics doesn't just 'balance' C the speed of light (which seems the logical implication of 'C') .. such that spacetime ohmage/resistivity -is- '-C', but never more than that. The deductive conclusion might be, not that the event horizon is 'black' but that we 'see' black, because the event horizon is an enormous ever-increasing density of "photons" held motionless. They are there, in immobile stasis, never reaching external observers. A hyper-attraction model, on the other hand, would have all 'photons' still actively moving a) either at standard C, internal to the even horizon, or b) at C+, having first been overpowered by a more negative than -C inertial moments, and then, moving at C ... "in an inertial field more super- conductive, than standard C-limited spacetime". Jamie John M wrote: > > Jamie, > since BHs are figments of Hawkins' et al. imagination > for 'something there must be', we can 'imagine' that > something so as to bounce back those photons (you > believe in) INSIDE once they got in and this is the > reason why the darn blob is black. > Imagination should not be constrained to imagined > reality. MAke it so that it fits. > (Hungarian proverb: Once it's goose, it should be > fat). > John > --- James N Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---