Jason, let me split your ideas into two problems. The first problem is to understand why and how observers interpret data in a meaningful way despite of the fact that the data has no unique meaning within itself.
On 26 Sep., 21:09, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A given piece of data can represent an infinite number of different > things depending on the software that interprets it. What may be an > mp3 file to one program may look like snow to an image editor. If we invited an inhabitant of a strange universe to our universe (e.g. to an interuniversal conference), he would most probably perceive nothing but random noise (if his senses allow him to perceive anything at all). He would feel like the image editor confronted with an mp3 file. Though, the fact that we being humans perceive something useful is self-evident since we are a product of evolution within our universe. Useful interpretation of the environment has been a necessary condition for survival. The successful analogy between an observer and a computer program shows that the process of observation has a computational character: The observer 'calculates' a meaning for his perception in a systematic way (which was elaborated evolutionary). We can formalize this similar to Russell and introduce the map from descriptions to meanings as a property of the observer. The second problem you address in your message concerns the embedding of the observer in the universe's description (you write of "self- aware substructres"). You give a very nice example: > Some piece of advanced technology maps out the neural network of > one's brain, including which neurons are firing at the instance the brain > was scanned and then saves it as a file. Does this file on the computer > constitute an observer moment? Does duplicating this file increase that > observer moment's measure? Or for it to constitute an observer does some > software have to load the file and simulate future evolutions of brain > states in a manner consistent with how a real brain would to create a valid > observer moment? Before I'm writing an uncompleted answer, I'd prefer to read what the long-time participants (Russell, Bruno and others) are thinking about this point. Youness --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---