On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 09:18:33PM -0800, Brian Tenneson wrote: > > I previously tried cutting and pasting the text instead of giving a > link no one apparently went to before replying because the formatting > was off. So I will do that because it seems that would be prudent. I > figured it out. (I'm not computer guru....) >

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Wow 1700 lines of stuff. Not well organised, slabs quoted en masse from papers that are already fairly familiar, and duplicate information. No wonder people find it hard to respond. The various Tegmark papers referenced in your discussion have been discussed on this list before. I'll comment where you seem to be adding something. I haven't read Daegene Song's Non-Computability of Consciousness paper yet, but I'm sceptical it would be a strike against CUH (or COMP). I'm also rather sceptical about purported quantum functions being necessary for consciousness. Also, it is known that quantum computers are classically emulable (with exponential slowdown). Alright - I think the heart of where you wish to go is to use fuzzy logic to describe the mathematical structure of all mathematical structures. I don't know enough fuzzy logic. Is there a fuzzy universal set? And can one avoid Russell's paradox in FL? I'm not sure I would personally proceed further than this, my preferred ontological basis differs a bit from Tegmark's, and consequently doesn't suffer from this issue of consistently having to specify all of mathematics. The same can be said of Bruno's ontological basis, which differs yet again. In your next post - there is no bird's bird. A bird viewpoint is in fact the viewpoint of nobody. All it is a bunch of symmetries, really, with symmetries broken in just those necessary ways to allow an observer. See the discussion in section 9.1 of my book, in particular about the 3rd person viewpoint, which is effectively Max's bird viewpoint. I got lost on your speculations on the excluded middle. Perhaps you can refine. Was it connected with your fractal musings earlier perhaps? Cheers -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Mathematics UNSW SYDNEY 2052 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australia http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---