Hi guys, Well, Bruno may be interested to know that I've finally come around to COMP.
I do now agree, everything emerges from mathematics. Nevertheless, the mathematical world does *appear* to seperate into three different domains; *physical* (material), *teleological* (goal directed) and *abstract math*, which *look* very different to each other. My misunderstanding was based on the fact that I couldn't (and still don't fully) see how they could be the same. But yes, I'm now convinced of COMP. The relationship is subtle, but I'm now think that the *Mathematical* domain is primary (most general), the *Teleological* domain is less general, and the *Physical* domain is least general. So Math is the bedrock, which supercedes Teleology, which in turn supercedes Physics. --- As regards the Consciousness discussion, there are three things you need to remember about it; (1) It's not a thing, it's a process (2) It's not just a *physical* process, it's also a *mathematical* process (3) It's not just what the process *does* (it's function), it's what the process *signifies* I think if you just bear in mind these 3 simple points about consciousness, you won't go far wrong. After about 6 years of ganashing my teeth and nearly going insane thinking about these issues, I have now reached my own tentative (in principle) answers on most of the big questions, to my own satisfaction. --- I don't think *any* of the current scientific or philosophical persepctives on consciousness are quite right. Consciousness *is* physical, but it's not *just* physical, it also extends into the mathematical domain. So I think that none of the materialist or dualist positions are correct. I was fooled by *functionalism* for a while, but I don't think that's quite right either. See point (3) above - it's true that consciousness is a process, just as the functionalists say. but it's not what the process *does* (functionalism) that is identical to consciousness, but what the process *signifies* - consciousness is a *logical representation* of the meaning of a concept - it is a *language* for representing concepts - this is NOT the same thing as functionalism. Cheers all --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---