Hi all,

someone on another list alerted me to this post, there is a very 
interesting discussion going on on that blog related to Observer Moments:


Greg Egan has posted too; and has some very interesting things to say.
Specifically, he says the right things why DA fails:


"The fact that an observer selected at random from the pool of all 
observers would be more likely to be class 2 under theory A is 
irrelevant; nobody has to “select us at random” before we’re allowed to 
make an observation."

And here:

"There is one aspect of the BB argument that is independent of these 
issues, though; rather than debating whether far-future life will be 
“freakish” or “Darwinian”, if we accept an infinite or extremely long 
future in which observers of any kind are present – so long as they can 
make observations that show them that they are not  living in the early 
universe – then “typicality” is not a matter of being a Boltzmann brain 
or a Darwinian brain, but simply whether you are living in the early 
universe or the later universe.

The way the BB fans use probability, they would then argue that the 
universe is very  unlikely to have this very long extended future, 
because then a “typical” observer would live in the far future … making 
us “atypical” because we live in the early universe.  I guess that’s 
really just a variant of the infamous Doomsday argument, applied to the 
universe as a whole:  the universe is unlikely to last very long, 
otherwise it would be “unlikely” for us to find ourselves so near the 
beginning.  That’s where I think they’re simply misusing probability: 
we are not a random selection of observers taken from the entire history 
of the universe."

That is what I think is the real problem with DA arguments: it is a 
decision strategy; but OM's are not playing games ;-); they do 
reasoning; and while this strategy would assure that most OM's are 
correct, it is not very satisfactory for the current OM - it only gains 
knowledge about optimal strategy, but not of it's _concrete_ situation.

That is why I think RSSA is better than ASSA. But RSSA is still not 
satisfactory. Hmm; this whole continuation of experience business is the 
whole mystery anyway IMHO.


Günther Greindl
Department of Philosophy of Science
University of Vienna

Blog: http://dao.complexitystudies.org/
Site: http://www.complexitystudies.org

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