2008/8/15 Brent Meeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> If mind is a computation, we can copy it. Computation is numbers to >> numbers in finite "time" and deterministic rules. I've put "time" in >> quotes because time can be a rule and not something inherent to >> computation. >> >> Computation can only diverges if the computation is not the same >> and/or input is not the same. Computation is a deterministic thing not >> something you could play with. >> >> Regards, >> Quentin Anciaux >> > > But that assumes there can be a computation independent of any material > realization - a computation that never has an error. Real computations > are realized by quantum mechanical devices. Of course they may be so > large and hot that they are to a very good approximation classical (the > brain is according to Tegmark). But I'm supposing that the complexity > of conscious computation (and remember we are talking about simulating > the environment, not just the brain) is so great that quantum effects > are inevitable. > > Brent Meeker

Sure that assumes mathematical realism, that assumes we don't invent programs/algorithms/truth. We find them they are the primary ontology, mathematics fits the world because the world/existence is a by product of the "truth". It's sounds like crazy, but finite life in a finite universe who will last a finite time put so much constraint on the real that it should be rejected. (It's late my mind is not so focus, so maybe I'm saying non-sense... I'll will see tomorrow :-) Quentin Anciaux -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---