2008/8/15 Brent Meeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> If mind is a computation, we can copy it. Computation is numbers to
>> numbers in finite "time" and deterministic rules. I've put "time" in
>> quotes because time can be a rule and not something inherent to
>> computation.
>>
>> Computation can only diverges if the computation is not the same
>> and/or input is not the same. Computation is a deterministic thing not
>> something you could play with.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Quentin Anciaux
>>
>
> But that assumes there can be a computation independent of any material
> realization - a computation that never has an error.  Real computations
> are realized by quantum mechanical devices.  Of course they may be so
> large and hot that they are to a very good approximation classical (the
> brain is according to Tegmark).  But I'm supposing that the complexity
> of conscious computation (and remember we are talking about simulating
> the environment, not just the brain) is so great that quantum effects
> are inevitable.
>
> Brent Meeker

Sure that assumes mathematical realism, that assumes we don't invent
programs/algorithms/truth. We find them they are the primary ontology,
mathematics fits the world because the world/existence is a by product
of the "truth". It's sounds like crazy, but finite life in a finite
universe who will last a finite time put so much constraint on the
real that it should be rejected.

(It's late my mind is not so focus, so maybe I'm saying non-sense...
I'll will see tomorrow :-)
Quentin Anciaux
-- 
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

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