On 15 Aug, 01:37, "Quentin Anciaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/8/15 Brent Meeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > But suppose we can create an AI, but we can't produce copies that don't
> > diverge immediately; perhaps a consequence of the quantum no-cloning
> > theorem.  I realize that's probably not the case since it would require
> > that computation of the complexity to produce consciousness must include
> > so essentially quantum aspect.    But would that imply "1st person
> > indeterminacy" or not?
>
> > Brent Meeker
>
> If mind is a computation, we can copy it.

Indeterminacy requires that his has been done, not just that is is
possible.

>Computation is numbers to
> numbers in finite "time" and deterministic rules. I've put "time" in
> quotes because time can be a rule and not something inherent to
> computation.
>
> Computation can only diverges if the computation is not the same
> and/or input is not the same.

The natural interpretation of computionalism is that interactions
with an environment are not themselves part of mind/computation.

>Computation is a deterministic thing not
> something you could play with.

And minds are solipsistic things that carry their environment with
them?

> Regards,
> Quentin Anciaux
>
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