Brent M,
please spare me  the arithmetic class.
I scribbled an example which may be wrong. So noted and I am ashamed.
I was referring to the concept of (our) *'axioms'* - products of human
thinking to make our edifice of the cognitive inventory we carry *- VALID*.
I opened the possibility that a quite different view may exist with maybe
different 'axioms' - without going into theorizing about such.
And I won't.
I still hold that EVERYTHING is not restricted to our human ways - not in
logic, not in our so called possibilities, not in anything.
Best regards
 John Mikes

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Brent Meeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
> 1Z wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 15 Aug, 20:12, "John Mikes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> As for 1Z's axioms:
> >> In my vocabulary axioms are artifacts invented to make our theories
> >> workable. If 1 + 1 is NOT 2,
> >
> > How would that turn out the case?
> >
> >> you can say goodby to math.
>
> We define arithmetic so 1+1=2, but that's a particular model for dealing
> with
> distinguishable, discrete things.  It doesn't apply to everything, e.g. (1
> member of the U.S. 400m relay team) + (1 member of the U.S. 100m sprint
> team) =
> (1 member of the U.S. Olympic team).  And given quantum entanglement and
> indistinquishability of particles it may only apply *approximately* to
> things
> like apples and oranges.  So if 1+1=/=2 it just means you tried to apply a
> model
> where it doesn't work.
>
> Brent Meeker
>
> >> Furthermore I dislike the use of the word 'infinite' - in TEXTS I
>  rather
> >> use: 'unlimited'.
> > >
> >
>
>
> >
>

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