Colin,

I have several problems with that paper-- I think the reasoning is
sloppy in several places. Most importantly, I don't agree with his
formalization of the argument. My primary objection to that
formalization is similar to the objection he deals with in section 4--
the argument employs multiple senses of the word "possible", so to
formalize it we need to employ an additional operator, such as the
"physical possibility" that he chooses. To this objection, he responds
by arguing that it certainly *seems* physically possible (since one
can imagine a zombie), and so the burden of proof lies on those who
would claim that it is not physically possible. To this I would reply
that he is backing off to conceptual possibility again-- it is
conceptually possible that it is physically possible. That is all well
and good, but it does not allow the proof to go through; it still lets
computationalism rest, as one of several conceptual possibilities. To
make the proof go through, we'd need to directly assume the physical
possibility, which is tantamount to just assuming that
computationalism is false-- so the proof doesn't add much.

--Abram

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Colin Hales
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Computationalsim pronounced dead here:
> Bringsjord, S. (1999). The Zombie Attack on the Computational Conception
> of Mind. Philosophy and Phenomenological Research, LIX(1), 41-69.
> cheers
> colin
>
>
> Kim Jones wrote:
>> A representation of a thing (say MGA) is as good (ie as authentic) as
>> the thing being represented.
>>
>> Yes?
>>
>> Autrement dit:
>>
>>
>> there is no especial difference between the movie and the subject (of
>> the movie) - where the movie is a more or less "complete" (whatever
>> that means) representation of the subject
>>
>>
>> I have always FELT this to be true
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>>
>> There is a great need to SIMPLIFY all this stuff for dummies like me
>>
>>
>> Somebody please write "The Dummie's Guide to the Computationalist
>> Hypothesis"
>>
>>
>> You stand to make beaucoup de fric
>>
>>
>> K
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>
> >
>

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