Bruno, I have reread MGA 2 and would like to add the following:
We have the optical boolean graph: OBG -> this computes alice's dream. we make a movie of this computation. Now we run again, but in OBG some nodes do not make the computation correctly, BUT the movie _triggers_ the nodes, so in the end, the "computation" is performed. So, with MEC+MAT and ALL NODES broken, I say this: a) If the OBG nodes MALFUNCTION, but their function is subsituted with the movie (on/off), it is conscious. b) If the OBG is broken that in a way that all nodes are not active anymore (no on/off, no signal passing), then no consciousness. I think we can split the intuitions along these lines: if you assume that consciousness depends on activity along the vertices, then Alice is conscious neither in a nor in b, and then indeed I see why already MGA 2 leads to a problem with MEC+MAT. But if I think that consciousness supervenes only on the correct lighting up of the nodes (not the vertices!! -> I don't need causality then, only the correct order), than a) would be conscious, b) not, and MGA 3 does not work I you take away my OBG (with the node intuition)! Cheers, Günther --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
