On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > and that by virtue of this imposed order, defines relations between > particles. Computation depends on relations, be it electrons in silicon, > Chinese with radios or a system of beer cans and ping-pong balls; > > > > Here you are talking about instantiations of computations relatively to our > most probable computations, which have a physical "look". But strictly > speaking computations are only relation between numbers. > > Bruno, Thanks for your reply, I am curious what exactly you mean by the most probable computations going through our state if these computations cannot be part of a larger (shared universe) computation. Where does the data provided to the senses come from if not from a computation which also includes that of the environment as well? Also, why does the computation have to be between numbers specifically, could a program in the deployment that calculates the evolution of a universe perform the necessary computations to generate an observer? If they can, then it stands other mathematical objects besides pure turing machines and besides the UD could implement computations capable of generating observers. I noticed in a previous post of yours you mentioned 'Kleene predicates' as a way of deriving computations from true statements, do you know of any good sources where I could learn more about Kleene predicates? Thanks, Jason --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---

